thanks guys, i recon i may still put the engine and 'box aside, seems worthwhile if they are simple to install, I shall just stack them in the shed as spares should anything catastrophic happen to my engine or 'box unexpectedly i will have a spare layign around that i can put in temporarily whilst rebuilding the original, no point me tryign to find a 140 enthusiast, this car sat on the local volvo club website classifieds for 3 months at $100 before we took it, but we have a good local volvo wreckers who does all the classics, so at least the parts will end up back in good use eventually. I was amazed how much bigger the 140 feels then the 122S and how much stiffer it sat on the road. sorta surprising how much difference there is in the 2 cars, i figured it must have been more closely related, and that the 240 must have been the big step.